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Thanks to a  volunteer who has stepped forward to take over as admin1 the AMIPP Forum lives on and the plan to freeze the forum at the end of March 2014 is now cancelled.
Over the last two weeks the volunteer has worked hard with me so that the handover could take place effectively.
I am confident that he has demonstrated that he is very competent to be admin1 and at this time like admin2 he wishes to remain anonymous.
(I will remain in the backgroud as admin3 for a short period.)
Welcome aboard new admin1.
Signing off.
Old admin1
Mike Eacott
 
Re: Freezing the AMIPP Forums
Posted by: GrumpyGuts (IP Logged)
Date: 08 November 2013 12:45PM

Firstly, a note to thank admin2 and ohers who have kept this place going for so long - in particular for being the place where the groups of people who got together to mount fight(s) to try and preserve pension rights. Without him, I wonder how those groups would have met others and got things going. Without AMIPP as a place to meet would those fights got off the ground? Now if nothing is done everything will stop.

In order to preserve and widen that ethos for the future - who knows what will happen in the future when IBM'ers could usefully work together, I'd like to re-suggest something I suggested a while ago. In summary,I think the narrow nature of IBM Pensions by itself is very important, but is insufficient to attract enough current, ex and retired IBM'ers to form a "community". You need a community to keep things going. The thing I most miss about IBM is the people. A forum which had a wider scope but which retained the pension issues would be a place that a greater number of IBM'ers could find others to exchange ideas with and also a place to find "IBMers" when they need to circle the wagons and support each other in future should issues like pensions continued to be attacked.

Might I suggest a way of forming a community of IBM'ers ie current, ex and retired.

AMIPPs main contribution is as a background lurking whiteboard with a degree of longevity. It has outlasted several bouts of frenetic activity surrounding whatever is the latest pile of poo IBM has hurled at a particular group. There has often been long gaps of relative peacefulness in between when we've just found this a place to find others who are bound together simply because they are a unique band of fraternity (I think!) who were I think a unique type of person ... an IBM'er.

So either we lose the opportunity to keep in touch or we carpe diem and make this place a better place for good. Perhaps if we need such an excuse then use if you need it - a lasting tribute to Brian. I'm suggesting a wider lifestyle type forum which evolves as additional interest evolve but which retains at it's core "pensions". So if you know Flyertalk, where I have spent many years and which has quite literally changed our lives think Flyertalk with all it's components but with Pensions rather than travel at it's starting point. FT has places for people to talk about travel, seek work from other FT'ers, have "get togethers" (We're in Singapore for over 3 weeks in Jan/Feb 2014 and over 80 FT'ers are currently planning to come and we'll be eating hawker food and drinking together ...) food, hobbies, IT etc etc etc. Think of IBMERTALK as being FLYERTALK but with the starting point pensions with other stuff added.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/

When a particular topic warrants a new sub-forum then that is created and content moved. So there might be a sub-forum for starting up a business in retirement, or traveling in retirement, or food and drink etc. In time perhaps it might attract advertising revenue to become a contributor to the AMIPP fighting fund. The whole of the current activity could simply be cut and pasted to a sub area called archive.amipp.org.uk with links from the new front page.

I'd like to simply offer a small amount of cash with others sympathetic to the dea so that we could buy some help necessary to upgrade the forum software so it becomes an easier place to chat and more attractive to more people to join and particiapte. I'd also be happy to help flesh out initial design although I have noweb-competency. I'd be happy to volunteer to moderate initially although think I am unsuitable! We are IBM'ers after all .... we of all people should demand of ourselves a better place and provide to our much appreciated volunteers a bit of cash to bring ourselves a bit more up to date to better guarantee our future. I don't think we need to convert and carry old stuff over just start afresh with new software and archive all the old stuff to amippold with links to threads. A new wider community for IBM'ers might provide scope to contribute in the same sort of way to IBM'ers lives in the way that FlyerTalk has changed our lives and many thousands of others. IBMERTALK?
I hope this sparks some debate and interest ... if not well it isn't to be .....

What we need is a few people that agree and prepared to help start it .... people that disagree simply needn't participate rather than dissaude others from doing so if you get my drift. How it could be done is stage 2 - I suggest basic principles if first.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08 November 2013 12:46PM by GrumpyGuts.



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